2.2L on the way to settle under my hood
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2.2L on the way to settle under my hood
Guys, i'm finally going to do it and swap to 2.2L not before two or three months tho
I need all your help...ALLLLL your help LOL. and specially u MM cuz we live in the same country.
I want to know, what are all the problems which i may face in this swapping job?, what are all the useful things to do to make things easier to be done with the less losses?, is there anything to take care of before i start? plz everybody feel free to tell me all the considers....
I want to ask about somethings also just for now:
1. I know i would have to change the ECU, but would i have to change the wiring also?? i asked cuz i think that the 1.6L and 2.0L and 2.2L got the same sensors so i think it may all got the same wiring also
2. What is the best gear box to use with the new engine, does it the same gear box and ratios as my gear box in the 1.6L? or would i have to change to another gear box? and if i have to, then what is the best gear box to use? what is the code and which car brand and model it comes in??i want to have the maximum power from the engine.
3. What is the exact H.P. and torque on wheels and on the flywheel?
4. Does the alternator and power pump and the A.C. compressor are the same with those in the 2.2L? because i may dont have to change them if i can install mine.
5. Would i have to custom make ANYTHING at all in the whole job???
this is somehow off topic:
I am selling my 1.6L engine and gear box (if i had to change to another gear box) and the ECU and the wiring (if i had to change them too). All for the highest price i can get over the 2000 egyptian pounds or its equivilent in other currency.
For MM to ask if someone need this, i got the Leganza TB without sensors and a GM original parts clutch and clutch plate, they are used ONLY FOR 100 KM and then i changed them cuz i didnt know they were for a Lanos, Valeo badge still completly there on the clutch face, if anyone wanted to buy any of them then just please tell me here or call me on 0121819432 but i dont know a suitable price so u decide.
WISH ME LUCK GUYS
I need all your help...ALLLLL your help LOL. and specially u MM cuz we live in the same country.
I want to know, what are all the problems which i may face in this swapping job?, what are all the useful things to do to make things easier to be done with the less losses?, is there anything to take care of before i start? plz everybody feel free to tell me all the considers....
I want to ask about somethings also just for now:
1. I know i would have to change the ECU, but would i have to change the wiring also?? i asked cuz i think that the 1.6L and 2.0L and 2.2L got the same sensors so i think it may all got the same wiring also
2. What is the best gear box to use with the new engine, does it the same gear box and ratios as my gear box in the 1.6L? or would i have to change to another gear box? and if i have to, then what is the best gear box to use? what is the code and which car brand and model it comes in??i want to have the maximum power from the engine.
3. What is the exact H.P. and torque on wheels and on the flywheel?
4. Does the alternator and power pump and the A.C. compressor are the same with those in the 2.2L? because i may dont have to change them if i can install mine.
5. Would i have to custom make ANYTHING at all in the whole job???
this is somehow off topic:
I am selling my 1.6L engine and gear box (if i had to change to another gear box) and the ECU and the wiring (if i had to change them too). All for the highest price i can get over the 2000 egyptian pounds or its equivilent in other currency.
For MM to ask if someone need this, i got the Leganza TB without sensors and a GM original parts clutch and clutch plate, they are used ONLY FOR 100 KM and then i changed them cuz i didnt know they were for a Lanos, Valeo badge still completly there on the clutch face, if anyone wanted to buy any of them then just please tell me here or call me on 0121819432 but i dont know a suitable price so u decide.
WISH ME LUCK GUYS
>2004 Nubira, 1.6L (Manual Transmission)
>Custom made cold air intake
>Custom made headers & 2" pipe with mid Walker filter and rear Jasma-5Ziegen muffler
>Custom made intake manifold with 2.0L TB and larger injectors (soon to be done)
>Custom made cold air intake
>Custom made headers & 2" pipe with mid Walker filter and rear Jasma-5Ziegen muffler
>Custom made intake manifold with 2.0L TB and larger injectors (soon to be done)
I have not done this swap. So I cant offer any suggestions. I does sound do-able though and should turn out good !
So, good luck !
And keep us posted on your progress.
So, good luck !
And keep us posted on your progress.
~Spider~
2000 1.6 DOHC Lanos 'S'
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2000 1.6 DOHC Lanos 'S'
Silver HB.
____________________
"The three great essentials to achieving anything worthwhile are; first, hard work, second, stick-to-it-iveness, and third, common sense."
- -- Thomas Edison
first off congrats man... now you are really stepping into the upgrades world.
i'd strongly recommend reading the 2.0 swap we did before... it is going to be a great refference for you:
http://www.daewootech.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5171
as for the tranny: i am not sure how much the 1.6 nubira's tranny can hold but it was and still holding up good with the 2.0... the 2.2 got a bit more torque and to be on the safe side i'd recommend a leganza tranny for you.
we also used the 1.6 engine ECU on the 2.0 engine and it is working perfictly... we tried the 2.0 ECU for a day just for the sake of testing and their were no differences in anything
we also used the 1.6 engine wiring harness... ok their was a couple of extra sockets for the VGIS but that was no problem... you might have an issue with the MAP sensor wiring though as the 1.6 and the 2.0/2.2 got different MAP socket unless you are going to use the 1.6 MAP.
most important is the aluminum front engine mount... you got to get the 2.2 one with the engien or else the engien won't fit... the 1.6 aluminum mount got different bolt pattern, you can see all the details in the 2.0 swap post
alternator and i guess the PWS pump are the same so as all sensors except MAP... you will need bigger exhaust and brakes too.
if you want any help, call me on 0127335920
MMamdouh
i'd strongly recommend reading the 2.0 swap we did before... it is going to be a great refference for you:
http://www.daewootech.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5171
as for the tranny: i am not sure how much the 1.6 nubira's tranny can hold but it was and still holding up good with the 2.0... the 2.2 got a bit more torque and to be on the safe side i'd recommend a leganza tranny for you.
we also used the 1.6 engine ECU on the 2.0 engine and it is working perfictly... we tried the 2.0 ECU for a day just for the sake of testing and their were no differences in anything
we also used the 1.6 engine wiring harness... ok their was a couple of extra sockets for the VGIS but that was no problem... you might have an issue with the MAP sensor wiring though as the 1.6 and the 2.0/2.2 got different MAP socket unless you are going to use the 1.6 MAP.
most important is the aluminum front engine mount... you got to get the 2.2 one with the engien or else the engien won't fit... the 1.6 aluminum mount got different bolt pattern, you can see all the details in the 2.0 swap post
alternator and i guess the PWS pump are the same so as all sensors except MAP... you will need bigger exhaust and brakes too.
if you want any help, call me on 0127335920
MMamdouh
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THX guys for help and i would appreciate any help anytime untill the engine is fully swapped, i mean for the whole summer LOL
so keep me posted and when i am starting to buy the stuff and the engine i will inform u that the project has started already
so keep me posted and when i am starting to buy the stuff and the engine i will inform u that the project has started already
>2004 Nubira, 1.6L (Manual Transmission)
>Custom made cold air intake
>Custom made headers & 2" pipe with mid Walker filter and rear Jasma-5Ziegen muffler
>Custom made intake manifold with 2.0L TB and larger injectors (soon to be done)
>Custom made cold air intake
>Custom made headers & 2" pipe with mid Walker filter and rear Jasma-5Ziegen muffler
>Custom made intake manifold with 2.0L TB and larger injectors (soon to be done)
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ya, it think i will change the whole engine wiring also and ECU and the gear box, i need a better ratios i think..
and the first step is the most important one for now, GSE. i should make it the best with the 2.2L then may be LATER i will go turbo and maybe not, but lets just work as i am not going to turboing it and as i am going to only make it 2.2L for now..
what is the desired H.P.??? and also just to know, any equivelant pistons with LOWER compression can i get from another car??? if i am going turbo soon?? and no, i cant order anything online lol....
and the first step is the most important one for now, GSE. i should make it the best with the 2.2L then may be LATER i will go turbo and maybe not, but lets just work as i am not going to turboing it and as i am going to only make it 2.2L for now..
what is the desired H.P.??? and also just to know, any equivelant pistons with LOWER compression can i get from another car??? if i am going turbo soon?? and no, i cant order anything online lol....
>2004 Nubira, 1.6L (Manual Transmission)
>Custom made cold air intake
>Custom made headers & 2" pipe with mid Walker filter and rear Jasma-5Ziegen muffler
>Custom made intake manifold with 2.0L TB and larger injectors (soon to be done)
>Custom made cold air intake
>Custom made headers & 2" pipe with mid Walker filter and rear Jasma-5Ziegen muffler
>Custom made intake manifold with 2.0L TB and larger injectors (soon to be done)
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guys just woundering, i will have to change only the engine mount or the left hand side when u stand face to face to the hood?? the alluminnium mount?
any one got a manual for the 2.2L engine with its wiring diagram also????
PLZ someone must got that manual lol cuz i am in bad need of it.....
any one got a manual for the 2.2L engine with its wiring diagram also????
PLZ someone must got that manual lol cuz i am in bad need of it.....
>2004 Nubira, 1.6L (Manual Transmission)
>Custom made cold air intake
>Custom made headers & 2" pipe with mid Walker filter and rear Jasma-5Ziegen muffler
>Custom made intake manifold with 2.0L TB and larger injectors (soon to be done)
>Custom made cold air intake
>Custom made headers & 2" pipe with mid Walker filter and rear Jasma-5Ziegen muffler
>Custom made intake manifold with 2.0L TB and larger injectors (soon to be done)
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LOL sorry guyz, i even forgot its a friday night and ya i know i cant wait lol
if anybody got the manual then plz send it to me
GSE, thx
if anybody got the manual then plz send it to me
GSE, thx
>2004 Nubira, 1.6L (Manual Transmission)
>Custom made cold air intake
>Custom made headers & 2" pipe with mid Walker filter and rear Jasma-5Ziegen muffler
>Custom made intake manifold with 2.0L TB and larger injectors (soon to be done)
>Custom made cold air intake
>Custom made headers & 2" pipe with mid Walker filter and rear Jasma-5Ziegen muffler
>Custom made intake manifold with 2.0L TB and larger injectors (soon to be done)