Misfire Cylinder 1 - Revisited

N/A tech, Cold Air Intakes, Spark Plugs/wires, Cat backs, Exhaust...etc

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Post by JohnnyC »

Location A or B? I was thinking my injectors were down under B.

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Post by sim0ng »

am unsure, not fermilliar with this engine tbh mate! thought it would look a bit more like ones we have in this country but your inlet is completeley different!

I'll try and find out some info for you about this engine in the morning but am pretty sure you want to remove what youve labeled A, you should find your fuel injectors under that, B is your inlet manifold
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Post by daewoomofo »

location b is the fuel rail, the wires are going directly to your injectors
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Post by JohnnyC »

One of the shops here in town does a fuel injection cleaning service for $60 that is garaunteed or my money back...

Somehow I just don't feel like I have the experience to get them cleaned properly, even using seafoam. I just don't want to do anything that makes anything worse...
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Post by Daniel »

daewoomofo wrote:location b is the fuel rail, the wires are going directly to your injectors
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Post by MMamdouh »

can't really see how spraying injector cleaner on the injector will clean it from the inside, also spraying that into the intake won't do nothing to the injectors either... only effective cleaning job i know of is to use an altra sonic cleaning machine, even that can't beat brand new injectors.

from my experiance with injector cleaners: they are a big waste of money.

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Post by sim0ng »

worked a treat for me when i did it on my car! and a can of the stuff isnt very expencive so if it works its less fo a waste of money then it is buying a new set of injectors! if youre gonna do thay why not get a nice set of carbs instead?!
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could you please elaborate more on the steps you did to clean your injectors?

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Post by lanowoo »

i heard that you can take the fuel tube going to the injectors and connect a spray injector conditioner in the line and then connect it and then run your car at 2000 rpms for a min and repeat process 4-5 times and that will help a little
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Post by MMamdouh »

yeah i heard that too and it is more logical solution to cleaning the inside of the injectors.

the way sim0ng described the tasks seems to be an "external" cleanup that will do nothing to the dirty internals.

anyways the older lanoses came with stupid injectors that are phenominal for getting clogged and dirty... i recommend a BOSCH replacment with the same flow rate, i got a set and tested it for a week: works great.

the BOSCH is the one on the left:
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Post by JohnnyC »

After 1/3 of a tank of 93 octane + 2 bottles of Seafoam injector/other cleaner = I still get the stupid blinking light of doom.

If this helps... I noticed I get the blinking CEL most often when I get really light on the pedal at high speed... So... if I'm rolling along at 70mph with no problem at all... then I get to where I'm going slightly downhill, blinking CEL... I give it a little extra gas... Blinking stops.

It might still be slightly clogged (and therefor unable to squirt out the proper amount of fuel for that light requirement.

I have not have the system scanned to see what codes came up... but I think it's safe to assume that P0301 code is in there.

Anyone know where I have to go to get the flash data off the moment it threw the blinking CEL? (I heard that is sometimes saved).

Oh... but I did manage to go almost 10 miles before I got the first blinking light. And during that entire 10 miles I was fantasizing about how great it would be to say, "I drove all the way from Kalamazoo to Lansing and back with no CEL!!" ... but you know... :P
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Post by Efratech »

simong g that engine is very very or i must say the same internally as the corsa gsi 16v, some differences are the intake and engine managemente, and compresion.
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Post by daewoomofo »

all CEL codes arestored in the ecu memory, if ther was a CEL it will be there, just go get it scanned again
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i think last 4 codes are stored.

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im pretty sure its the last 50 (unless you clear the memory)
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