1.6 lanos internal strength

WannabeRacer · Post by **WannabeRacer** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:05 pm

I am new to the Woo and have been struggling to find performance info on my Lanos sport (thank god for daewootech.com) I plan on eventually doing a turbo install on my Lanos and was wondering what kind of boost the stock internals in the 1.6 can handle and what kind of power I can expect to make. would it be smarter to try an engine swap? IU have allot of questions concerning engine management, transmition ion issues and so on but I don?t want to overwhelm anyone with my greenness.

Thanks in advance for any replies.

lanos2001 · Post by **lanos2001** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:11 pm

as for boost with stock internals i would say you can be safe with like 5-7psi for daily driving and up to 9 or 10psi for track. anymore than that would be really risky. and you can expect with like say 8psi just to be in the middle probably about 155hp/135 or 140whp. thats my guess. you could do what audacityracing did and get forged internals and stuff and boost about 15psi at least i think. but anyways erfinder or Tom from 360 should be answering some other stuff plus kenny(audacity) will say something too since i mentioned him.

nick

Audacity Racing · Post by **Audacity Racing** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:13 pm

bring on the questions!

as for boost on stock 1.6L internals, there is some debate, but most people think the 7-10 psi range is where it's at. above that gets a bit dangerous for the internals. rough calculations put 10psi on the 1.6 somewhere around 140hp to the wheels (very rough calculation).

for the power, the 2.0 or 2.2 engines have that much at the crank to begin with, so to a swap is an option too.

the biggest difference, in my opinion, is price. the turbo kit will cost between 1000 and 2000 depending on which parts you use. the swap is roughly the same including cost of engine, but you can pick up 2L nubira engines for about 500 (shipped) on ebay, so if you feel like you can do the swap and small fabrication yourself, it would be significantly cheaper to swap.

what are your intentions for the car? high boost has different rules on the engines and cost is way way way higher. figuring out what you want to do with the car is also a big factor in how to raise hp.

WannabeRacer · Post by **WannabeRacer** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:36 pm

I'm not looking for huge numbers, I'm going to autocross the car and it will be my daily driver for the next few years. so I don?t want more power than the chassis can handle effectively, and reliability is an issue.

I would also like to preserve some fuel economy, I figure if I set up the turbo so the boost comes on at higher revs, I can drive normally off the boost, then downshift and tap into the power when I need it.

Audacity Racing · Post by **Audacity Racing** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:38 pm

maybe a higher compression ratio would be more your style then. that would give you plenty of throttle response and preserve fuel economy quite nicely, plus it is very cost effective!!!

WannabeRacer · Post by **WannabeRacer** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:50 pm

you must be talking about an NA app then, I'm not sure I would want to add boost to a high compression engine. but I may just be showing my lack of Woo knowledge

Audacity Racing · Post by **Audacity Racing** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:53 pm

if you went NA then you wouldn't need boost.

lanos2001 · Post by **lanos2001** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:56 pm

well if your just looking for power at higher rpms for the track and good fuel economy then you might as well just get a wet nitrous kit with a smart chip or whatever its called. the kit i'm talking about only shoots nitrous when your at full throttle when you turn it on. so you don't have to consistantly push a button for the juice but just floor it. and all you would need is like a 35-50 shot of it and you would be good. plus it'll be best bang for the buck. i wanna say like $1000-$1500 for a wet kit (its safer b/c it doesn't detonate as easily as a dry kit)

nick

WannabeRacer · Post by **WannabeRacer** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:00 am

What would i have to do to the 1.6 to make it perform well without boost?
If its no more expensive than a turbo or a swap than it might be a good idea. I like how responsive non turbo cars are, and im sure that would help in an autocross. I wouldnt have to worry about falling off of the boost.

Post by **PrecisionBoost** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:06 am

Stock 1.6L SOHC internals with DOHC cylinder head.... 2mm gasket spacer to decrease compression ... 20.58 psi of boost.......... 275hp ........239 lbft torque.

Redline 6800 RPM

So.... basicly this is a Lanos motor with lowered compression.

Oh ya.... he has 30,000km on this engine allready.

Here is the link to his Corsa....

http://www.daewootech.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5270

Audacity Racing · Post by **Audacity Racing** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:10 am

ok... go to ebaymotors.com and put this in the search box

8025182737

call the number on there and ask them how much for the leganza motor (with computer). i was quoted 550 shipped

add that to a wet kit (they retail for about 700, install for abour 500 added to it) and you'd have a nice little lanos!

lanos2001 · Post by **lanos2001** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:16 am

well as for no extra boost what so ever like supercharger, turbo, or nitrous then getting headers, CAI, port and polished intake manifold and head plus a full exhuast system should be about 140whp if not more. BUT i'm not sure on the cost to get all that done since the headers would have to be made custom.

nick

Post by **PrecisionBoost** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:43 am

I think the key item to figure out is your budget.

2.0L turbo engines are an easy swap.... but the mechanics bill might be quite a bit if they don't know what they are doing.

Do you have to go for emissions testing???

WannabeRacer · Post by **WannabeRacer** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:26 am

we have pretty strict emissions standards in Massachusetts that it would have to pass. but I could fit an aftermarket cat to the exhaust system.

CustomLanos · Post by **CustomLanos** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:12 am

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