can u put abs on non abs leganza?

Daew0Leganza · Post by **Daew0Leganza** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:22 pm

can u?

DArkstalker · Post by **DArkstalker** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:34 pm

how do you know if you have abs or not. I'm not sure if I have abs or not.

Audacity Racing · Post by **Audacity Racing** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:35 pm

go 30 miles an hour and stand on the brakes... if they lock... that's a no, if they kinda lock and roll... you do

BosnianLanos · Post by **BosnianLanos** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:14 pm

Or for safety's sake, simply look under the hood to see if you have an ABS pump. Some of the Leganza members may be able to help you locate it. Or, simply check if you have an ABS Relay/Fuse.

However I think most if not all Leganzas came with ABS.

MMamdouh · Post by **MMamdouh** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:19 am

i asked that before and the reply came out saying it is very hard and too compicated... i would rather keep it as it is, brakes are a major safty device and we should not mess with it.

MMamdouh

Daew0Leganza · Post by **Daew0Leganza** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:48 pm

se no abs sx maybe abs cdx abs

Daew0Leganza · Post by **Daew0Leganza** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:49 pm

mmamdouh wrote:i asked that before and the reply came out saying it is very hard and too compicated... i would rather keep it as it is, brakes are a major safty device and we should not mess with it.

MMamdouh

probably u can if u do piston calps

panther · Post by **panther** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:26 pm

My Lanos has ABS but if I had the choice I would prefer non-ABS brakes. Most people wrongly think that ABS will stop you quicker. That is false because ABS actually increases the stopping distance. The only good thing ABS does is help you steer around an obstacle without skidding. It does not decrease your overall stopping distance. In winter I take out the ABS fuse because driving in snow with ABS brakes is an absolute nightmare. Cadence braking in slippery situations stops a vehicle much quicker than ABS.

Daew0Leganza · Post by **Daew0Leganza** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:50 am

panther wrote:My Lanos has ABS but if I had the choice I would prefer non-ABS brakes. Most people wrongly think that ABS will stop you quicker. That is false because ABS actually increases the stopping distance. The only good thing ABS does is help you steer around an obstacle without skidding. It does not decrease your overall stopping distance. In winter I take out the ABS fuse because driving in snow with ABS brakes is an absolute nightmare. Cadence braking in slippery situations stops a vehicle much quicker than ABS.

u cant stop the skid much over 35 during the snow

panther · Post by **panther** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 10:15 am

With cadence braking you can control a vehicle and bring it to a stop much much quicker in snow than with ABS. With locked wheels you will not have any control over the steering but it will still stop you quicker than ABS as the snow packs itself in front of the wheels helping to reduce the speed.

ABS is designed not to stop you quicker but to allow you to steer in the event of an emergency, but even then most people just hit the brakes and freeze without steering.

MMamdouh · Post by **MMamdouh** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:52 am

what is "cadence braking "?... and yes ABS is ment to keep the tires rotating at the lowest speed attainable to keep you in control of the steering, if you lock up the front then it could be anything from an acute understeer to zero steering.

i steered the car twice before with the front locked but it was very unresposive and on clean tarmak... on ice, water ,oil or whatever slippary surfaces things won't be that easy.

as every thing else in this world it is a compromise between braking power and steering control.

MMamdouh

panther · Post by **panther** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:08 pm

Cadence braking is manually pumping the pedal when a lock up is felt. In snow conditions this method gives better stopping ability than ABS. That is why some Audi's are fitted with a button to turn off ABS. ABS does not keep the wheels rotating at the lowest possible speed. To achieve the lowest possible speed will involve braking to a point BEFORE the ABS kicks in. Once ABS is working it will be releasing the brake pressure many times a second (that's the pulsating you feel in the pedal). While the ABS is releasing the brake there is no braking been achieved which is why stopping distance is increased.

MMamdouh · Post by **MMamdouh** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:56 am

i think While the ABS is releasing the brake there is some braking been achieved... i mean if the case is a consecutive brake/no brake action it would air strip to stop the car.

MMamdouh

Daew0Leganza · Post by **Daew0Leganza** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:20 am

mmamdouh wrote:i think While the ABS is releasing the brake there is some braking been achieved... i mean if the case is a consecutive brake/no brake action it would air strip to stop the car.

MMamdouh

well the abs works by pulsating 60 times per second or such

MMamdouh · Post by **MMamdouh** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:36 am

knowing the background of the guy i can't be too sure of his clames... how many times does the ABS pulsate per second??

also does ABS has to work on disks?? someone told me that the drum brakes are not mechanically able to achive such faast rate of pulsation... is that correct?

MMamdouh