amp for componets

kinkyllama · Post by **kinkyllama** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:50 pm

Whats the advantage of running an amp on them? Do they just go louder and clearer? More mid-bass before they cut out? My deck isnt the most powerfull.. but it isnt bad and the only thing its powering are the front componets.

anyways what are the advantages?

Also any word on the tempest by adire audio... the dealers for em dont even know when they'll have them available and about 4 months ago they told me a month.. but now they have no idea.

Any other good subs? I think its 300rms im looking for

mocpac · Post by **mocpac** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 1:20 am

louder and clearer

kinkyllama · Post by **kinkyllama** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:46 pm

mocpac_ser wrote:louder and clearer

Okay. But say now i listen to alot of songs on 30vol... would it be clearer at 30? Or would i just be able to go up to say 32 w/ an amp and it will be as clear as it was w/o an amp at 30?

Cuz i really dont need it louder. lol.

MMamdouh · Post by **MMamdouh** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:55 pm

as a rule more power helps in hearing much clearer sound as well as getting loud music.

if i let my head unit drive my speakers i will go up to 18 just to hear it as loud as i do when set to 10 and my amp is driving the speakers... the head unit sound is not as clear as the amp though.

also it is said that to get twice the loudness you already have you need to tenfold the power

and i don't care much about loudness... when my volume is at 10 degrees i can hear very clear and strong sound.

i pump more bass at 10 compared to my friends doing at some 22 without amps not to mention that the sound they produce is distorted and unpleasant also my trebel notes are almost crystal clear compared to running ordinary tapes.

a friend of mine got almos the same setup as mine but he has an MP3 player instead... the sound in his car is way better than mine so it is basicly about the quality rather than the loudness of your musik... more power will defenatly help you achive that.

MMamdouh

delphis · Post by **delphis** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:09 am

yes the loudness in accordence with power is true, if you double your power you will only get a boost of approximently 3dB which in reality isn't even noticable by most peoples ears.

kinkyllama · Post by **kinkyllama** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 8:34 am

What about the mid-bass from them. For example when the cross overs were set for 0db (now they're at -3db) they would cut from mid-bass before i felt they were loud enough. Will an amp also help that? or is the clippign the speakers themselfs limit?

Lastly whats good rms wattage for the CDT componets, 100rms to each side?

MMamdouh · Post by **MMamdouh** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:19 pm

i don't think they are made to hadle bass so with an amp the setuation won't change.

MMamdouh

kinkyllama · Post by **kinkyllama** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 6:52 pm

mmamdouh wrote:i don't think they are made to hadle bass so with an amp the setuation won't change.

MMamdouh

Yeah but arnt they made to handle like mid-bass? They definitly make your pants shake

MMamdouh · Post by **MMamdouh** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:39 pm

to a ceartain level yes.. but if they are cutting out then you pushed them to the limit... an amp won't help on that situation, you need to cut down the bass a little bit and let a sub handle the bass.

MMamdouh

kinkyllama · Post by **kinkyllama** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:55 pm

mmamdouh wrote:to a ceartain level yes.. but if they are cutting out then you pushed them to the limit... an amp won't help on that situation, you need to cut down the bass a little bit and let a sub handle the bass.

MMamdouh

Yeah thats what i did.. now they work beautifully. I just wasnt sure if it was lack of power or the limit of the speakers--thanks for clearing that up

TheGreatAndPowerfulOz · Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:45 pm

When given the correct crossover settings for mid bass and up, the CDTs are happy with up to 125 watts RMS. Don't try to give them 125 if you do not have them crossed to at least 65Hz or above. Anything under 65Hz at that power will make them distort and move to or past their mechanical limitations. That's not a good thing.

Remember, some sound deadener in the doors REALLY helps improve mid bass response.

kinkyllama · Post by **kinkyllama** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:58 pm

TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:When given the correct crossover settings for mid bass and up, the CDTs are happy with up to 125 watts RMS. Don't try to give them 125 if you do not have them crossed to at least 65Hz or above. Anything under 65Hz at that power will make them distort and move to or past their mechanical limitations. That's not a good thing.

Remember, some sound deadener in the doors REALLY helps improve mid bass response.

You say crossed to at least 65Hz... that settings on the amp, correct?

TheGreatAndPowerfulOz · Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:32 pm

That is on the amp or on a seperate crossover network if you use one.

kinkyllama · Post by **kinkyllama** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:14 pm

TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:That is on the amp or on a seperate crossover network if you use one.

lol okay good. hehe.. now to pick an amp. Do i just need a two channel amp or what? all i have is those componets

Also would the amp need to be 125watts rms x2 @2ohms or @4?

TheGreatAndPowerfulOz · Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:14 am

kinkyllama wrote:
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:That is on the amp or on a seperate crossover network if you use one.
lol okay good. hehe.. now to pick an amp. Do i just need a two channel amp or what? all i have is those componets

Also would the amp need to be 125watts rms x2 @2ohms or @4?

If you want to feed the speakers 125 RMS, then you need an amp that makes more than 125 as you do not want the gains on the amp turned up all the way. That can lead to clipping, distortion or even speaker damage.

An amp that can make 150 RMS and then have the gain turned down is ideal.

And to answer your question, it is 125 x 2 @ 4 ohms.