NEED PRO HANDLING HELP

python235 · Post by **python235** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:04 pm

well after upgrading the electrical system to the engine THE CAR IS GOING CRAZY, the acceleration is unbelivable
well the prob is here
after the rpm reaches 4 or 4.5 the sterring wheel BECOMES WATERY SLICK
the car cant be turned with half a finger :P
u can feel every bump on the road and the steering reacts to it too!!
so i need help on making the car STICK STRAIGHT and not respond to those bumps
i have 15" rims and 50 X 205 tires and they STILL CANT STOP SLIP!!
im guessing its the dusty reaods we have!
but still need to make the car STICK STRONGER to the ground

MMamdouh · Post by **MMamdouh** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:10 pm

given all the feedback you said... you need a 500 Kgm of extra weight on your hood to keep the front on the road.

OK now you might need stiffer suspension especially on the back of the car to prevent the front from leaping during acceleration.

BTW: what electrical systems upgrade did you do.

MMamdouh

python235 · Post by **python235** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 4:23 pm

it was mainly custom on making the electricity to the engine VERY INTENSE to complete combustionit was done by adding amps and chnaging the coil to a very high voltage coil (DONT ASK ME, I DONT UNDERSTAND Y), we also added spark plugs to the car with 4 heads ech plug (beru ultraX ) new spark plug wires from NGK, we added a new fuel pump froma v6 nissan

making the fuel always stable on high , the car dosnt run rich AT ALL !!! it burns almost everything making it hard to put a back fire device

Audacity Racing · Post by **Audacity Racing** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:16 pm

your suspension is too hard and you are losing mechanical grip and bump-steer is taking effect, but also, you have too soft of a sway/anti-roll bar, so the car leans dramatically...

softer in the front

stiffer in the rear (use a tower bar)

different shocks, different bushings, tower bars, etc...

especially change your steering arm bushings... (did chad ever finish the lanos version of this mod with the poly aveo ones????)

python235 · Post by **python235** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:18 pm

HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP!
the damn car is CRAZY never drove smthin like that!!!! im realy gonna need help here
THE DAMN STERRING WHEEL CANT STAY IN PLACE IF I FULLY ACCELERATE, that happens on 1st 2nd 3rd and FOURTH GEARS!!!!!!
i cant accelerate with out trying to hold the steering straight
the car seems SO DAMN LIGHT!!!! how can i grip it to the damn ground!!!!
any advise
PLEASE SUGGEST ANYTHING U KNOW
all that before is not gonna hep that much CAUSE ITS BEEN DONE!

Audacity Racing · Post by **Audacity Racing** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:25 pm

the most effective vehicle upgrade for handling and grip is, without question, the rubber on your tires. get new tires that are grippier.

you can't change the dynamic behavior of the car without changing the suspension setup... and that's not possible.

good luck

lanos2001 · Post by **lanos2001** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:32 pm

well what do you have done to the suspension exactly? so we can see if there is anything else that can help.

nick

python235 · Post by **python235** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:09 pm

i want to change the whole suspension group!!! but i need help knowing from where to get them or from which cars
i need to know the best strut bars to be placed
the best coil overs too!! i cant lower the car anymore so i need stiff ones but cant find any.
the car acts like it has POWER POWER POWER POWER STEERING on acce.eration

Audacity Racing · Post by **Audacity Racing** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:10 pm

i'm confused.... usually a high powered front wheel drive car has severe understeer...

lanos2001 · Post by **lanos2001** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:17 pm

since you have a racer i'm not sure what they sell for it suspension wise. never really looked it up. maybe Efrain or Tom or somebody with more knowledge on your car can help. i'll look though to see if i can find anything.

nick

MMamdouh · Post by **MMamdouh** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:16 pm

Audacityracing wrote:i'm confused.... usually a high powered front wheel drive car has severe understeer...

he said POWER STEERING... i guess he ment the steering wheel is veryt very light and too responsive... i am sure this car suffers from massive understeering.

yo phyton... can you get some slick tires as the ones used on tarmac rallies?? i think that will be the most sutable thing to get... also what is the road conditions you drive on? maybe it is your roads rather than your car.

Just got a flashback at the Pirelli adv... POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT CONTROL!... that is what phyton got. thank God i got Pirelli P3000 on myride, i got the "control" part covered... now i have to do mods to get some "power" as i hardly have any

MMamdouh

python235 · Post by **python235** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:46 pm

well maybe it is the roads SICE THEY ARE ALL DUSTY
plus i have MICHELEN tires, but i cant get slicks
they cost 1000 dollars for sport slick tires here .
it might be the raods too THEY SUCK BIG TIME

but still i dont like how the steering becomes very responsive I NEED TO FIX IT!! but not for 1000 $

lanos2001 · Post by **lanos2001** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:54 pm

maybe your just getting stonger and you don't know it.

sorry but i've been searching all day and couldn't find anything. on the suspension. what year is your racer and do you know what other cars might share the same suspension?

nick

python235 · Post by **python235** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:20 pm

Its a 1994
but i THINK pontiacs have some relation BUT WE HAVE NO PARTS HERE
i think opels and vaxhuals should too BUT WEIGHT DIFFRENCE WONT BE HELPFULL

Audacity Racing · Post by **Audacity Racing** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:45 pm

adjust the toe... tell your mechanic to make the car toe OUT

that's all i know to tell you dude

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