Chip wrote:I'm sorry that you seem to have had a bad experience with these guys.
I didn't really have a bad experience.... I know they were concerned with the potential liability of introducing this suspension to "street" guys
Chip wrote: We had extensive conversations with them to assure them that we were a very legit race team and we also sent them our full stock suspension system .
I understand where they are coming from on this stuff..... I own a multimillion dollar industrial manufacturing business so I'm very familiar with liability.
It's sad that we live in an age where there are millions of Lawyers ready to pounce on any situation that could make them some money.
Chip wrote:we are now a part of Team KW.
Good job.... atleast someone here in North America will have some ties with KW Europe.
Chip wrote: We will be more than happy to make sure that you can get a set at that point
Well.... since KW has been ignoring me I've been looking at other posibilities....The Reno suspension is not unique... just like all GM products.... it's shared with at least one other chassis.
I am glad for you guys.... and I hope things work out with KW.... I just wish they had let me know that there was another company inquiring about their Lacetti/Nubira suspension.
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Anyways, you dont happen to supply stronger/bigger sway bars too do you? I dont know much about suspension but with stiff struts and springs how would the car act with such skimpy sway bars? I'd think it'd still have a good amount of body roll
kinkyllama wrote:I just noticed the KW logo on the WTCC lacetti.
Anyways, you dont happen to supply stronger/bigger sway bars too do you? I dont know much about suspension but with stiff struts and springs how would the car act with such skimpy sway bars? I'd think it'd still have a good amount of body roll
Sometimes roll at one end of the car is desirable. For example, if a tuner wants the car to oversteer around corners he uses smaller anti-roll bars at the front. This allows both front wheels to stay flat on the road while allowing the rear of the car to roll as one unit (so raising the contact patch of the inside rear tyre off the ground, inducing a spin). Stiffer bars at the front will bring about understeer (or "push" as those morons in NASCAR tend to say).
kinkyllama wrote:I just noticed the KW logo on the WTCC lacetti.
Yeah, KW sponsors the WTCC series as a whole, but they don't make the suspension for the WTCC Lacetti, unfortunately.
Anyways, you dont happen to supply stronger/bigger sway bars too do you? I dont know much about suspension but with stiff struts and springs how would the car act with such skimpy sway bars? I'd think it'd still have a good amount of body roll
Yes, we will be supplying sway bars along with the coilovers. We ran the rally this past weekend with the stock sway bars and more than anything, the sway bars are affecting the steering. With just the KW coilovers we have now, we can virtually eliminate body roll
tango wrote:Sometimes roll at one end of the car is desirable. For example, if a tuner wants the car to oversteer around corners he uses smaller anti-roll bars at the front. This allows both front wheels to stay flat on the road while allowing the rear of the car to roll as one unit (so raising the contact patch of the inside rear tyre off the ground, inducing a spin). Stiffer bars at the front will bring about understeer (or "push" as those morons in NASCAR tend to say).
Right on. We disconnected our rear sway bar half way through the race and noticed a big difference in the amount of understeer the vehicle had.
Sounds good. How did you guys do in the last rally?
Tango, im aware of that. But there are many things you can do to change the handling charastics of a car. The car will handle completly differnent with the coilovers too so i cant yet say if it has too much under or overstreer. Plus i need several more track hours before i start messing with that stuff. I really should have more track hours before i even add things but i have my reasons (dont wanna hijack the thread)
It looks like there is some interest in this vehicle after all. Just when I thought we were going to be overlooked by all the big aftermarket companies. Thanks for putting in the time on the Reno Chip. Your companie's hard work and hopeful victories will help bring the aftermarket to us. I hope you guys do well, and the site was great to read over and watch the video.
