custom carbon fibre hood?

kinkyllama · Post by **kinkyllama** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:00 am

How much do you guys think it'll cost to have one made? With some kind of hood scoop or some venting of some sort...i like the evo style? How much weight should it shed; 35lbs? I'll get rid of all the stock latching and do like 4 hood pins too. I need to get some weight off the front end.

Danny

jurupa · Post by **jurupa** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:21 am

I can ask a guy that has one for his car, its a honda hach btw, if you want.

kinkyllama · Post by **kinkyllama** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:25 pm

jurupa wrote:I can ask a guy that has one for his car, its a honda hach btw, if you want.

Yeah..but did he have the whole thing custom made? I cant see why he would since im sure theres plenty available. Im guessing he bought a normal CF hood and maybe had a scoop molded into it?

Audacity Racing · Post by **Audacity Racing** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:05 pm

300 bucks plus labor

kinkyllama · Post by **kinkyllama** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:06 pm

Audacityracing wrote:300 bucks plus labor

How many hours should labor be?

Also i wanna take off all the latchs.. including the hinges in the back. Should i do like 4 hood pins upfront and two in the back? or two and two?

Neon Driver · Post by **Neon Driver** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:54 pm

All you need then is a hood skin. For pins use 2 and 2.

AC

jurupa · Post by **jurupa** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 7:47 am

kinkyllama wrote:
jurupa wrote:I can ask a guy that has one for his car, its a honda hach btw, if you want.
Yeah..but did he have the whole thing custom made? I cant see why he would since im sure theres plenty available. Im guessing he bought a normal CF hood and maybe had a scoop molded into it?

He has no hood scoop. He drives a Honda hach back so I know aftermarket parts are common, but he was missing a fender (it got damage from a tire blow out) and he order a used one from Japan so he may go more the custom/import route. I will ask him anyway and see what he says.

Audacity Racing · Post by **Audacity Racing** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 4:51 pm

kinkyllama wrote:
Audacityracing wrote:300 bucks plus labor
How many hours should labor be?

Also i wanna take off all the latchs.. including the hinges in the back. Should i do like 4 hood pins upfront and two in the back? or two and two?

depends on the shop and how you want to deviate from the oem one. things like scoops, louvers, and cowls take more time. also, the skeleton work underneath can take time to get a design that meets your needs as well as the structure of the car. the worst a shop can tell you is that it's too expensive, so go out and get an estimate from somewhere.

boricua76 · Post by **boricua76** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 5:42 am

hey if anyone get a carbon fiber hood for daewoo ,,i am in..my name is boricua76,,live in washington state...can find me under this name in cardomain.com...

dog · Post by **dog** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 6:37 pm

kinkyllama wrote:How much do you guys think it'll cost to have one made? With some kind of hood scoop or some venting of some sort...i like the evo style? How much weight should it shed; 35lbs? I'll get rid of all the stock latching and do like 4 hood pins too. I need to get some weight off the front end.

Danny

Building a carbon fiber hood is very time consuming. You must completely strip the hood top and bottom and make a fiberglass mold of each side, then laying carbon fiber is tricky because you can see the weave so neatness realy counts. If you realy want a clean one piece look with the hood and scoop you have to make a model for the scoop and blend it into the hood prior to making the mold. If you have to change the underside bracing for the scoop, the right way would be to make the changes to the original hood (ie more time) which means some metal work. The pieces that you change can be fabbed of foam and coated in bondo but must be perfect. Carbon fiber is very unforgiving of imperfections in the mold.

The one bargining chip you have is once the molds are made the owner of the molds can reuse them and sell the hoods.

Post by **PrecisionBoost** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:38 pm

Fibreglass hoods are just as good.... most "carbon fibre" hoods use a thin layer on the top surface and the rest if fibreglass.

A true carbon fibre hood is very expensive.

If you want the carbon fibre for looks.... then I say go for it.

For functionality and cheapness.... fibreglass can't be beat.

Carbon Fibre by itself isn't that great..... it has poor shear strength in certain directions.

A Kevlar/Carbon fibre weave is the best alternative as the kevlar makes up for any problems with the carbon fibre strand orientation and you still get a really nice looking hood.

So my point is...... do you want something cheap and functional or expensive and pretty?

Personally..... I'm a 50/50 kind of guy.... I probably would go with a fibreglass hood that has a carbon fibre top coat.

DomWoo · Post by **DomWoo** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:33 am

i dont like the look of carbon fiber so if i had to choose i would have to say fiberglass with a sweet hood scoop

Audacity Racing · Post by **Audacity Racing** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:04 am

i've got a kevlar/carbon top 3 layers with a fiberglass skeleton underneath

Post by **PrecisionBoost** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:14 pm

Audacityracing wrote:i've got a kevlar/carbon top 3 layers with a fiberglass skeleton underneath

Sounds like a perfect hood to me.....kevlar/carbon with a fibreglass substructure is the best cost vs weight hood you can buy.

All fibreglass is heavier than a hybrid but it's really cheap

A hybrid like Audacityracing's hood is lighter and stronger than the all fibreglass hood but it's a little more expensive

An all kevlar/carbon hood is very expensive but it's the lightest and strongest.

So to me..... Audacityracing's hood is the perfect choice for those who want the weight reduction, look of carbon/kevlar and a lower price compared to an all carbon or carbon/kevlar hood.

Audacity Racing · Post by **Audacity Racing** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:29 pm

http://www.shopmaninc.com/hybrids.html

that's where i got my hybrid cloth from. i went with the green/black 2x2 weave. my 3 layers are 45 degrees offset so that i have total lamination in all directions.

they have lots of interesting color combos and the price is really good for a hybrid material (about 30 bucks a yard)

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