aveo/kalos engine+gearbox swap help!

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aveo/kalos engine+gearbox swap help!

Post by M33 EVL »

hey guys ive hit a standstil. AND ITS EMOTIONALLL!!

before i go on first for those that dont know my situation it is as so..

i have a daewoo kalos 1.4 sx AUTOMATIC!
its only done about 23,000 Miles so kinda fresh!
and i live in the uk.
so alot of access to vauxhall parts/engines...

i didnt pick the car started off as mums car then i took it and thought hmm nice project without thinking about the gearbox..

HOWEVER!! MY GEARBOX IS BUSTED! and it doesnt really work.. due to my stupidity and constantly shifting in 2 nutral whilst driving to try build up revs n then shift in 2 drive... pls dnt ask..
and over here in the uk im being quoted prices like £1200-£1500 GBP ($1,922 - $2,403 USD)for a re-furbished gearbox with a 12month warnty..

ive never really carried out any mechanical work on tht level so id rather have a mechanic do that sort of stuff... however bolt ons and other minor things i can do within the engine bay..

Now you guys probably gona say search the other forums i have done again and again and again.. its all for manuls... not only that its for the 1.6 aveo..or i find sum threads for 1.5 :s now im not sure if that makes a diff or not with the holes matching up.. im guessing it could tho..

so nowww im stuck in a dilema.. i was thinking rather than spending that much money just on a gearbox.. get rid of it and swap in a new engine and new gearbox HOWEVER ive been quoted crazy prices like £7,000 GBP+ ($11,211 USD) umm duno about you guys but my pockets aint thaaat deep for a one shot part.. acorss a few years maybe but not straight up in one go
they keep talking about how the driveterains wont match and all this other stuff and its a big project bla bla bla

so my question to all you engine and gearbox guru's is..!!
WHAAT SHAL I DOOO

i know some of you hate turbos and so on.. but i unfortuntly am a sucker for dump vales and ive alwaysss been sucker for em.. so id have to have a dump valve for what ever set up i go for.. esp since ive done so much work on the outside and plannd for the inside as well still to come...
pls remember my cars AUTO and the gearbox isnt working..
and if you know of any setups that are jjust simpl bolt up PLEASE TELL MEE!!
that way i can do it!
and il keep everyone posted throughout the project but may need help if i hit a brick wall! the cars not in use but im going to need it within the next month or two and im willing to put in as much time as needed..!
im ideallly looking for something to give out a final output of around 200BHP+ with the option 2 increase safly.. as i fink thts more than enough for a car of its size n weight...
pref no fabrication needed or minimal!

im thinking of 3 options

1) fix my gear box, then just turbo my 1.4 and upgrade all internals (pistons ect)

problem:however my dilema is.. ITS STIL ONLY 1.4 and all that money id sepdn on upgrades i could of purchased a new faster car as stock!
ONE LAST THING! i read on one aveo owners project he turboed his aveo which was auto
HOWEVER didnt go 2 plan as for some reason his auto gearbox wasnt shifting fast enough due to the increasd boost... well thats what i read on there.. and ever since reading that i was put off even trying it incase that happened... and if that is so.. is there a way to re-program the gearbox or something..


2) new engine which bolts up to my current gearbox and fix my current auto gearbox and turbo it

problem: the gearbox wil stil be auto and i dont like drivin fast cars which are auto.. i love manul so would prefer that.. and how much can that stock kalos gearbox take..

3) new engine new manul gearbox conversion and turbo it

Problem: cost that companies have quoted. however if its all direct bolt up il do it myself thats not a problem.. buuuut i dont know which engines/gearbox's match up to the 1.4 as all the posts and threads are in relation to 1.6 aveo's and so on.. with the forenza engine and other engines found in america not in UK besides one which i think was a omega or something..


forgive me for anything that may have sounded noobie LOL.. i am stil a noobie but with big ideas..
ay help would be muuuch muuuch appriciated... please helppp, i dont wana be stuck with a 1.4 auto..
but if i have a bigger engine with auto then il live with it.. or even a solution for the 1.4 auto turbo project's gear change problem....

i eagerly await all you repliesss..
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Post by benzino »

is manual an option?
it sounds like you want to be shifting gears anyway hahahaha

I have a feeling the kalos is a completely diferent kettle of fish in comparison to the lanos, forenza, reno, nubira etc. with Opel/GM gearbox bellhousing

In Australia, we only got the 1.5 kalos, so I'm not really sure

Is selling the car an option?
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Post by M33 EVL »

ive done some research in 2 swapping 2 a manual.. but its just heaaaaps of work.. and im not a mechanic and i dont want any of the engine kinda stuf 2 go wrong or be a shappy finish lol.. im gona be driving it after all and im not the softest of driveers loll.. i like a bit of redlinging and downshifting now and again... if not every journy :P

the only thing i can think of now is possibly seeling BUUUTT and this is a big butt...
cant realllly sell :( cos ive choped my roof off LOL ive fitted a all clear roof like the panoramic roof concept, side skirts flushed in with car body, and screen in steering wheel..
my engines only done about 23,000 miles and we've owned it since showroom so wouldnt reaaaaly wana sell :(
with the way things are going i might have to tho.. :(
but that means RE-DOING all that work.. which i dont realllly fanccyy :(
aahhh!!!

and due to all that i wont be able to sell mine so itl just sit there unless i just sell the individual parts on ebay which would probably take a million years! :(

it looks like im stuck with a crumy auto and ima spend an arm and a leg to get that fixed... :( i would rather spend that money and some more and get a conversion.. but no1 wants 2 touch a DAEWOO heere punks! :(

when i finish n if i ever get the engine n gearbox i wnt n cars done up.. ima spend 3 hours outside each garag with boards saying dont come here they refusd me n reving the hell out of my car n clouds of smokes 2 ensure customers dont go there.. loll
sorry im kinda cheeesd off, getin bit carried away.. :(
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Post by benzino »

if you can't afford an engine swap, and have no mechanical experience, your only options are either replacing the busted gearbox with a second hand box; or selling the car, which you said isn't an option.

When an automatic breaks, it really breaks! And that is the same for any make of car whether budget korean or luxury german... you only hear about the budget cars being crap because usually the owner will whinge about it (not saying you are) and the luxury owner will just pay... that's just the way of life. I have a friend that works for mercedes and I couldn't believe it when he told me a basic service is AU$700.

Also, if you like to thrash cars, you have to expect stuff like this. If you beat a person down, they will either cease to function or they will seek revenge and both cases will burn you.

Just some advice.

Also, you never said what was wrong with the gearbox which makes me think you have already decided that you want to swap.
Seriously, a full engine swap for £7,000 is a pretty good price.
With your turbo project, were you going to be doing the internals? If you can do engine internals, you can do an engine swap... engine internals are not a bolt on affair. You need to be fraction-of-a-milimetre perfect for it to work.

With any car, it takes money and doing things cheaply or poorly is dangerous (like replacing an airbag with a TV screen). Before you spend another cent on the exterior/interior think about budgeting and money allocation if you are truely serious about the engine.

Please don't take anything I have said as a personal attack on you or what you are doing, I strongly believe that everyone has their own style, I'm just trying to open your eyes a little bit so you can step back and figure everything out.
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Post by M33 EVL »

lol, no no i havent taken any offence at all :)
i have been daft through out the project and the thing is my natural way of thinking is very impulsive.. so if i think ohh that sounds good.. i wont think twice.. il think again maybe about how it will look and thats it, il go for it thinking its the best and thats that simply because it would be unique or look nice in my opinion... hence so many random things on the car. im more the type who goes for looks and also wants the power in a car.. but doesnt have the know how for the power :(
the thing is if i was to spend £7k on a daewoo i would feel like slapping my self.. it will always be a daewoo underneath it all, it will still be FWD, and nothing will be 100% because its all been fabricated again and again...

And above all ive allllways always been a sucker for the R34 skylines brutish looks.. even if i had a GTT which is RWD single turbo without all the gadgets i would be happy.. as opposed to the daddy GTR spec without even going in to the more uniquely tuned V-spec 2 and the z tune and all other types which are limited editions.. because of the simple fact you can pick up a very good condition GTT for about £10-12K nowadays wereas the GTR is still floating in the £30-40k budget which i wouldnt spend on a skyline id rather pick up a DB9 with a few more grand on top for that sort of money...
but anyway without getting tooo side tracked... im basically a noob when it comes to mechanics compared to you guys.. i havent even got any experience in a garage or even any cars besides driving them and having the odd race with mates...

thanks for that info was very useful..
think im probably just going to fix the auto and save up for something worth doing up like the R34 GTT or a supra or something...
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Post by benzino »

Step 1: sell the car to a chav
step 2: buy a skyline
step 3: ???
step 4: profit
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Post by M33 EVL »

naaa. seriously i dont know how bad you think my taste is but its not anywere near chav levels.. you might like your car plain and simple but seriously come on now... chav is a bit low..!
1.keep my car
2.wait a year
3.buy skyline
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no i was saying that only a chav is stupid enough to buy a car with a gearbox that doesn't work :lol:
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oooooo, my bad.. sorry got the wrong end of the stick there :( wooops apologies
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