DSM turbo in a lanos?
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DSM turbo in a lanos?
i have the opprotunity to buy a DSM turbo out of a wrecked Eagle Talon for $40. it's in near perfect condition. now here's my question: is there anywhere to find piping thats already bent to fit a lanos or am i gonna need to have it made custom?
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I had a DSM turbo (a TDO4) on my Daewoo Cielo. Notice my choice of tense? HAD. I recently removed it. It was no ends of trouble and has caused damage to my engine. But before I get into that. You will need custom piping. There isn't a lot of room in front of the engine to fit the turbo though. Mine was turned so that the intake faced the right fender. The exhaust ran down in front of the oil filter (first problem). This is fairly easily solved though. Fit an oil filter relocator kit (preferably one with a cooler as well). If you use an intercooler the piping cannot be run around the existing radiator. You would have to run it around the fender and into the bumper area. That's a lot of piping that will however yield a lot of lag. My advice is to replace the radiator with something smaller, or better yet, see if you can find one smaller and then relocate it to INFRONT of the a/c condensor. This way you free up more space for the turbo downpipe and creat a lot of space for the intercooler piping. The a/c condensor may have to be shifted or replaced with a smaller one too....depending on how large your I/C piping is, and how much effect putting the radiator infront of it has on the effectiveness of it cooling. The next thing you have to wory about is your MAP sensor. Forget this bullshit about "T"ing off the vacuum hose. I did just that (using three check valves) and ended up with a currently blown MAP sensor. Get a 3 bar MAP sensor and be done with it. An aftermarket management system wouldn't hurt either.
That said my initial advice to you is to under no circumstances say "Oh..that's not gonna happen because..." or '"I'm not gonna need that..." If you even think about any of those phrases you are in BIG trouble. Spare no expense. There is NO such thing as cheap power. All forms of it are expensive and you cannot run from that. Do your research. Hang around ANY and EVERY turbo-based message board and dig info. Ask questions. DIG DIG DIG. It took me a year of planning and acquiring parts before I started. And even then I was in too much of a hurry. If I had taken another 6 months to prepare I would perhaps fared better. If not in the install, I would perhaps have gone with the idea of replacing the engien with a 2.0 16v instead (a MUCH better and more widely chosen option).
My final advice to you is DON'T do it. You are setting yourself up to potentially ruin/hate a car that you perhaps hold in high esteem. Be kind to your Lanos. Fit a nice pair of rims, or a stereo. Dabble with an exhaust tip or two. But these cars were truly not made for any real speed or performance upgrade. The engine that it is based on is a European design of the very early 1980s and was intended for fuel economy. Coupled with the fact that modifying your car in Korea is against the law...not much can be done to help the likes of us. If you want a fast car buy one. Or at least buy one that can take mods. That's my two cents on it. Good luck.
That said my initial advice to you is to under no circumstances say "Oh..that's not gonna happen because..." or '"I'm not gonna need that..." If you even think about any of those phrases you are in BIG trouble. Spare no expense. There is NO such thing as cheap power. All forms of it are expensive and you cannot run from that. Do your research. Hang around ANY and EVERY turbo-based message board and dig info. Ask questions. DIG DIG DIG. It took me a year of planning and acquiring parts before I started. And even then I was in too much of a hurry. If I had taken another 6 months to prepare I would perhaps fared better. If not in the install, I would perhaps have gone with the idea of replacing the engien with a 2.0 16v instead (a MUCH better and more widely chosen option).
My final advice to you is DON'T do it. You are setting yourself up to potentially ruin/hate a car that you perhaps hold in high esteem. Be kind to your Lanos. Fit a nice pair of rims, or a stereo. Dabble with an exhaust tip or two. But these cars were truly not made for any real speed or performance upgrade. The engine that it is based on is a European design of the very early 1980s and was intended for fuel economy. Coupled with the fact that modifying your car in Korea is against the law...not much can be done to help the likes of us. If you want a fast car buy one. Or at least buy one that can take mods. That's my two cents on it. Good luck.
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anesTHEtic34 wrote:the only thing is i want to do it for all the reasons you told me not to. it's not supposed to happen, so of course i have to make it so.
Same here...
'88 Pontiac Lemans GTE - 2.0 16v XE - fully programable ECU, Custom made intake manifold and other bits.
146.6WHP/135lb.ft - 14.81@94mph
146.6WHP/135lb.ft - 14.81@94mph
so far i have only got my parts for the turbo kit, everything just sitting there on the ground waiting for it to be mounted and tweaked with...
and why havnt i started you might be asking
well first off.. (i know you didnt mean to do this tango but you did)
after hearing everything tango has said and done i really dont want to see
my woo busted.. so i am reasearching every possible thing there is to do with installing a turbo and what people have had problems with
next thing is, DNK motorsports was going to help me out with this project but it seems the guy is to busy for anything but what he wants to do, so i have to find time and hope this guy will help me out
finding everything has been a job in its self
and the last thing is space, i have sat there and sat there looking and measureing trying to find the perfect place for it to sit and what direction to face it and such, and i still havnt found a way that im happy with
but there was something i seen awhile back, i seen a honda CRX and the turbo was no where near you would think it should have been, the guy had takin it moved it up to where our air box would be and had exhaust piped up to it out of the way of everything, now i dont know what the problems of this might be so... but i have thought about doing the same thing and moving it into a new location
and why havnt i started you might be asking
well first off.. (i know you didnt mean to do this tango but you did)
after hearing everything tango has said and done i really dont want to see
my woo busted.. so i am reasearching every possible thing there is to do with installing a turbo and what people have had problems with
next thing is, DNK motorsports was going to help me out with this project but it seems the guy is to busy for anything but what he wants to do, so i have to find time and hope this guy will help me out
finding everything has been a job in its self
and the last thing is space, i have sat there and sat there looking and measureing trying to find the perfect place for it to sit and what direction to face it and such, and i still havnt found a way that im happy with
but there was something i seen awhile back, i seen a honda CRX and the turbo was no where near you would think it should have been, the guy had takin it moved it up to where our air box would be and had exhaust piped up to it out of the way of everything, now i dont know what the problems of this might be so... but i have thought about doing the same thing and moving it into a new location