Lanos 1.3 to 1.6 Engine swap

Big Jeff · Post by **Big Jeff** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:31 pm

MMamdouh wrote:
Bob3825 wrote:no we are using the 1.3 ECU , is this causing it not to open? because we had a brand new nubira with the 1.6 so we double checked all the vacuum lines and they are the same

And i believe getting the engine from below is easier since you wont have to drop it in with an angle to get the transmission in first, but from down you just align it on the floor and pull up
i am tired as hell and wasn't able to think clearly yesterday... today it struck me that we connected the VGIS solenoid to the socket that used to be on the VGR of your old engine... no wonder the VGIS is not working

this brings up a serious question... how the hell will we actuate the VGIS solenoid when their is no socket for it on the 1.3 loom??

MMamdouh

you might need to get the 1.6 wiring loom

MMamdouh · Post by **MMamdouh** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:18 pm

we are getting the 1.6 ECU and loom... not sure if the 1.3 ECU is "ready" to control the VGIS and even if it did... how would we transfer the signal from the ECU to the VGIS solenoid?

MMamdouh

Big Jeff · Post by **Big Jeff** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:35 pm

hope this helps

Bob3825 · Post by **Bob3825** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:44 pm

This helps alot jeff thanks, but if you have what each pinout is for then everything is solved

honda guys are really lucky when it comes to wiring, everything has been done and you have all the diagrams you need lying everywhere on the internet to do anything else

Big Jeff · Post by **Big Jeff** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:33 am

ok i will do it now

Bob3825 · Post by **Bob3825** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:37 am

Big Jeff wrote:ok i will do it now

I can't thank you enough my friend, and i don't need everything just the VGIS related pinouts

Another question, does the 1.3 ecu have the VGIS function but not wired or not at all?

Bob3825 · Post by **Bob3825** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:16 am

Oh and i read somewhere on the forum or at aveoclub don't remember, that PrecisionBoost fooled around with the VGIS and triggered it manually at different RPM levels, so i just need to know did you just use your had to open the solenoid or is there another way?

Big Jeff · Post by **Big Jeff** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:27 am

here is another dia it is the only thing i could find with the VGIS in it

all you need to manually trigger the solenoid i think is to wire a switch from the battery?
as it only a electric current

Bob3825 · Post by **Bob3825** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:40 am

This is great too, i'm asking because i wanted to get an RPM triggered switch and set its window at 4500 rpm and just connect it to the VGIS but the 1.6 ECU should have more agressive maps for when VGIS is triggered and in open loop mode (WOT) to compensate for the faster moving air and make use of it, but if i'm wrong and the maps are the same then some one tell me because i'll get started on the RPM activated switch, it will save a lot of time

mr_g · Post by **mr_g** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:04 pm

If you need 1.6 16v ECU (A16DM), I have spare one with imobilizer and code key..

Bob3825 · Post by **Bob3825** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:41 pm

Actually today the electrician made the VGIS work with the 1.3 ecu, but it sometimes opens at 4500rpm and sometimes doesn't open at all, and when it doesn't open it gives me a check engine light until i lower the revs again and the check engine goes away, i'm getting an ALDL scanner and an O2 sensor with the controller and datalogger on sunday or monday max. so i'll connect the ALDL and datalog with the laptop while driving to see what this check engine light is and try to find a fix around it, and mr_g if i ever need the ECU then be sure we'll get in touch but i'm currently trying to just make it work since i'm turbocharging soon so probably i'll get rid of the stupid intake with the VGIS

Bob3825 · Post by **Bob3825** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 2:48 pm

guys i need some 0-100km/h or 0-62mph times

i managed yesterday with the VGIS locked on the long runners a time of 9.2 seconds but i know i can get much better it was my second time driving the car and i don't know where torque peaks and how the car reacts

Big Jeff · Post by **Big Jeff** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:20 pm

it been a whike since i did a 0-62 that i forgot my per shift time and short one and over rev another, i will clear my car out try again l8r

Bob3825 · Post by **Bob3825** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:03 pm

Guys does anyone know if the 1.6 16v ecu has the same plugs as the 1.3/1.5 ecu, i mean if i remove the 1.3/1.5 one can i replace it with the 1.6 ecu without changing the wiring?

3oweida · Post by **3oweida** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:52 am

I think 9.2 is decent .. mine does it in 9.5-10 secs