Plans for making my car a bit faster

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Plans for making my car a bit faster

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My future mods that I will finish by the end of August:

1. Chocolate Chip
2. Ground Wires
3. Twister Air Intake Mod

Hopefully the car will be pushing about 150hp at that stage, considering that I have a custom exhaust (removed resonator) + Ractive muffler, and a short ram Intake, and custom spark plug wires.
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Re: Plans for making my car a bit faster

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AcingTeam wrote:Hopefully the car will be pushing about 150hp at that stage, considering that I have a custom exhaust (removed resonator) + Ractive muffler, and a short ram Intake, and custom spark plug wires.
I think you're probably going to be upset cuz you most likely wont hit near 150.
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not even close

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no way...your car comes stock with 106 to the flywheel....if it is automatic that means u loose 20 percent do to powetrain and if stick then 15 percent...thus you have to the wheels about 84-90HP...Intake adds about 8 of TRUE HP, plug wires 1HP if you are lucky, the chocochip 2 HP if you are lucky.....your exhaust if done the right way...upto 12 HP, if not done the right way you might be losing upto 8HP....so no....if you have done your stuff the right way...you have about 125HP to the flywheel and a true HP rating of about 105 to the wheels......Sry to burst your illusion...just dont want you sounding ignorant in other forums or when talking with friends who know something about cars....but hell, we are all here to learn from each other....keep on modifying the woo.....and ignore those Diabolical Haters we call Civic owners.....peace
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I wasn't talking about hp to the wheels, that'd be different obviously. Also, many people say that chocolate chip is a very noticable difference, so it can't be only 2 hp increase. Yes it is 5 spd manual, and I'm pretty sure all my things are done correctly (exhaust for instance). Also, it's 105hp stock, not 106 (that's torque).
I quess the only way to find out is to take a dyno test...
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150 HP? are you using NOS? ;)
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I'm sorry, most likely 130hp...
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Post by asam »

Dyno test it. But My guess is you would be at 135hp. I have done dyno tests from one of those mobil guys at shows and I'm at 170hp(before exhaust and some other misc. stuff). but the tornado added 15hp on the spot. Try it. You can take it back if you don't like it. Also to hell with those guys who don't know what they are talking about. Let them Hate.

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Thanks Asam,
What is tornado? Is it the same thing as a twister that goes into your air intake pipe and spins the air that's going in? Also, where did you get it and for how much?

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Yea... looks like a fan insert. They supposedly add like 17 hp and 38% more Gasmileage. Just rough numbers off my head.
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I'm not trying to say they don't actually work, but I really can't see how swirling air, BEFORE the combustion chamber can make any differance.

As far as I know, the only place that mixture swirl can make an increase or decrease in power (depending on the swirl pattern) is within the combustion chamber itself.

Non pressurized, spinning air will lose it's spin pattern because there are little things like opening and closing intake valves that would break up the vortex.

Example (ok, maybe not a GOOD example, but it gives you an idea)

You have a box fan in the hallway of your house.
You open & close the door rapidly to a room that is at the end of that hallway.
The moving air from the fan will not be in the same pattern inside the room as it is in the hallway because of the door opening and closing causes the air movement pattern to be changed.

With this in mind, how can a stationary, fan shaped piece of metal alter the swirl pattern inside the combustion chamber?

Remember, I have not used one, nor have I seen the dyno results of a car that has used one, but I can not understand how this thing makes any actual differance.

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Post by Wolf-Spirit »

well dno but i also heard those things help.... but 15hp? i dno lol sounds ridiculous

also 125hp? i dont think so but we will c i geus... cuase if yours has 125hp i dont even wanna know what i have lol
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Who's got 125hp?

OZ, I think what twister does is... by spinning of the air that is going in (in a spiral motion), bigger quantity of air is able to fit in the pipe and flows easier and better before going into the chamber, so it accelerates the rate of taking more air in....
That's what I think.... could be wrong.
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Post by TheGreatAndPowerfulOz »

Acing,
The only way to get, as you said "bigger quantity of air" is to have is pressurized, such as a turbo or a supercharger that is compressing it.

Air takes up a specific volume unless it is under pressure.
The only way to make it under pressure is to compress it.
A few stationary twisted fan-type blades will not compress, they will only swirl the air pattern.

So I am still not able to understand how it can give a horsepower or gasmilage increase since this air vortex is created before the combustion chamber.


Again, I may be wrong on this, but I just don't see how it does what it says.


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My Friend got one in his Cavalier, and we drove it two days straight testing, We didn't gain anything noticeable anyways...
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Waste of $$$... Blinker fluid and muffler bearings might be more useful than this.
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