Diesel Lanos and 6cyl Lanos

AcingTeam · Post by **AcingTeam** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:40 am

Brian5475E wrote:Power comes from a 200-hp 3.0-litre V-6 that makes 192 lbs.ft. of torque in the middle of the rev range (3,600 rpm),

That's what I found out about the engine. I don't think the 4cyl tranny would hold up long to that engine. I wonder how much that engine weighes compared to the 1.6 or the 2.0?

I'm sure you would have to use a different tranny with it. F16 probably wouldn't even fit.

Post by **Efratech** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:13 pm

Brian5475E wrote:Power comes from a 200-hp 3.0-litre V-6 that makes 192 lbs.ft. of torque in the middle of the rev range (3,600 rpm),

That's what I found out about the engine. I don't think the 4cyl tranny would hold up long to that engine.

Tom's old 2.0 turbo made about 240 lb.ft of torque and he's using an F16

Post by **Efratech** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:23 pm

sorry was using an F16 he change it for a F20 with an Quaffie LSD

Post by **PrecisionBoost** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:44 pm

All the engines should fit the F16,F20,F28 transmissions.

I think there is an issue with clearance if you use the 3.0L head..... which is why the UK guys drop a 2.5L C25XE head onto the 3.0L block.

There is lots of debate over which is better but most people think the 2.0L 16V turbo ( C20LET ) is the best engine due to the lower weight and the fact that it can make as much power as the V6 by simply increasing the boost.

I haven't paid much attension to the V6.... I just thought I'd bring it up as an interesting point.

Myself.... I still firmly belive the C20LET is the king

BCC423 · Post by **BCC423** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 3:19 am

if the sumbird motor fits the lanos, therefore the 3.1 v6 out of the sunbird should fit the lanos? the 3.1 came in berettas, caviliers, and many other gm's, some of the 3.1's had a 3.4 option, should the 3.4l dohc be feasible to fit into a lanos??

Post by **PrecisionBoost** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:33 pm

I don't think the 3.1/3.4 V6 will fit the transmission from the Lanos.

I don't remember which tranny they used but I don't think it came with the Getrag 5spd ( which was mated to the 2.0L 8V turbo Sunbird GT engine)

Anything is possible.... but the 2.0L 8V turbo makes a pile of power.... there are Sunbird GT's with the C20GET (8V turbo) out there running in the high 10's on the 1/4 mile so they must be putting out somewhere in the range of 400hp. ( source.... J-body forums )

As I've said before.... the 2.0L turbo is the best bang for your buck... it's lighter than the V6 and you can get more power.

Even if you shoehorned in a V6 I don't think a turbo would be possible due to the lack of room.

tango · Post by **tango** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:33 pm

BCC423 wrote:if the sumbird motor fits the lanos, therefore the 3.1 v6 out of the sunbird should fit the lanos? the 3.1 came in berettas, caviliers, and many other gm's, some of the 3.1's had a 3.4 option, should the 3.4l dohc be feasible to fit into a lanos??

Hang on a sec. The reason the C20GET was in the sunbird GT was because GM was delayed in bringing the QUAD4 to market and used the Brazillian built 8v turbo as a stop-gap measure. The GET wasn't the largest engine used n the Sunbird, meaning that it had enough under-bonnet room. The Astra had this 2.0 as it's largest powerplant. Therefore there isn't necessarily enough space to fit the pushrod V6 in the Lanos. Actual measurements etc are needed.

Post by **PrecisionBoost** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:18 am

Ya.... the 2.5L V6 and 3.0L/2.5L V6 hybrid will work.... as proven in the picuture of the Blue kadette that Tom posted.... but I think the 3.1L/3.4L is really pushing it.

I could measure the Sunbird but I allready know that it's engine bay is atleast 2" longer.

In the Sunbird there is plenty clearance between the 2.0L and fender wall.... in the Lemans/Astra/Kadette that clearance is almost completely gone.

When Tom and I got together way back when I had my 1.5L Lanos I was not convinced that the 2.0L 8V turbo would fit in there.

It was only after very carefully measuring everything that I realized that all the dimensions were identical.... even the suspension dimensions.

Needless to say.... I wish I had done the swap.... it would have been cool to have the first turbo Woo in the world..... but the Optra 5 was just too nice to pass up.

I still have the C20GET sitting in my shop.... collecting dust.... I should sell it one of these days.... I guess the 8V turbo stuff sells really well over in the UK.

I still have the Sunbird GT as well.... but I'm too lazy to put the C20GET back together and slap it in.... I'm looking at picking up a Lemans with a C20GET conversion just for fun.... I don't really need it but I will have lots of fun bagging the crap out of that car on the track. :twisted: