Timing Belt Area-(Idle)or(Tensioner) -WHINNING! -NOW FIXED!!

Andrew21 · Post by **Andrew21** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:20 am

Hi all....

I noticed a whinning noise coming form the Timing Belt area since i bought my car (2nd hand) but never really thought to much about it... Gradually (over 6 months) it has gotten louder a little bit... I thought it might have been Alternator or Pwr Steering belt..

Took it past a Mechanic and they confirmed its not those belts but coming from the Timing Belt Area !!!

Now the Timing belt was changed at 98,000kms ( Car now has 132,000kms).. The previous owner got this done at a reputable workshop not me. I called the workshop and they said its not under warrently and advised they probably didnt change the Idle or Tensioner but ONLY THE BELT !!!

I can't believe the idiots didnt change the tensioner at the same time !!!!

My question is,

1. Will i cause any damage by driving around with the noisey idle/ tensioner ?
2. What will happen? Will the Tensioner snap ? Or just become really noisey?
2. Would i be loosing performance from this/ fuel eccomony?

My performance does seem abit down and im only getting 430kms to full tank on 98octane.
When idling, if i tap the accelerator very quickly there is a short studdering of the throttle... What could this mean?

Daniel · Post by **Daniel** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:17 am

Maybe the complete distribution kit was already changed at 60.000km as per user manual. And only the belt at 98.000km.
But the noise can be from water pump too. At 132.000km that looks not unusual.
Don't stay with this noise. It's often lots of $$ if something broke in this area.

Fuel performance: how do you drive? I try to be a cool driver (well you know, fuel price and age

) and get a 8.6L/100km with my 1.6L DOHC Nubira.

Daniel

daewoomofo · Post by **daewoomofo** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:00 am

DO NOT DRIVE THE CAR! get a new belt tencioner idler and water pump put on ASAP! if the tensioner/idler snaps, you will have to rebuild the head. your best bet is to get it fixed correctly befor there is any damage. i wouldnt trust it.

Spider · Post by **Spider** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:03 am

daewoomofo wrote:DO NOT DRIVE THE CAR! get a new belt tencioner idler and water pump put on ASAP! if the tensioner/idler snaps, you will have to rebuild the head. your best bet is to get it fixed correctly befor there is any damage. i wouldnt trust it.

I agree with a big +1
As long as your doing it you might as well install a new timing belt too. That way you know all is well and you know what you have.

Andrew21 · Post by **Andrew21** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:50 am

Shit not wat i was hoping to hear !!!

Its one of the most expensive things to change on a car too !!!

Around $300 AUD !!

I'll have to do it soon, i have to drive the car in the meatime though i have no other way to get around....

I dont think its the water pump because even at slight throttle the noise goes away....

Spider · Post by **Spider** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:06 pm

Andrew21 wrote:Shit not wat i was hoping to hear !!!

Its one of the most expensive things to change on a car too !!!

Around $300 AUD !!

I'll have to do it soon, i have to drive the car in the meatime though i have no other way to get around....

I dont think its the water pump because even at slight throttle the noise goes away....

Did the mechanic rule out the power steering pump and its fluid ? They can be noisy.

Its a fact if the timing-belt breaks the cost of having a shop repair the head damage and replace the belt/s (etc..) could easily top $2,000.00 USD
Just me but if I had noise coming from under the timing belt cover ? I would not start the car until it was resolved.

ChiPPy · Post by **ChiPPy** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:48 pm

It could just be a mis-aligned timing belt cover. My Optra 5 had a whining sound 1 month after me buying it new. It ended up being the timing belt rubbing on the inside of the cover because the cover was not on properly. I figured out this myself by pushing on the plastic timing cover in a few different places until I found where it was hitting. It will usually get louder when you find the spot. Give it a try before you go spending tons of cash. If you can't figure it out though, I would get it looked at quickly, because when that stuff goes, you'll be looking at thousand, not hundreds to fix.

Andrew21 · Post by **Andrew21** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:59 am

Thanks for all the help and info guys...

I got quote for

*Tensioner Bearing
*Idler Bearing
*Waterpump
$130AUD ( Its not OEM but meets OEM Standards)

And i was quoted around $250AUD labour...

So total around $380AUD to get it all fixed up...

Do you guys think that is a good price?

daewoomofo · Post by **daewoomofo** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:15 am

any idea what that converts to in usd?

BosnianLanos · Post by **BosnianLanos** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:22 pm

Its a little less than $320.

Thats a good price for all the work you're having done.

Andrew21 · Post by **Andrew21** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:38 pm

$380.00 AUD = $316.737 USD

Yeh i found a cheap place that gets aftermarket parts for the Daewoo cheap...
Original OEM Daewoo parts are just crazy expensive !!
I thought since i have to take the timing belt off i might aswell change the water pump aswell... Its only an extra $65 so i might aswell... I was also advised by someone that the noise could also be the Water pump and not the pulley's ?
Either way i'll be changing all of those things...

Just didnt expect it or have the $$$ at the moment to fix...Thats life though !!

Hopefully there wont be any other suprises in the near future apart from i know i have to change the Rocker cover gasket and also Spark plugs seals.. the car has 132,000 kms and although has had all major services done with log books...

mezomaster · Post by **mezomaster** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:14 am

best thing i like in Egypt, Daewoos are there on every street so spare parts are cheap comparing to any other country

Andrew21 · Post by **Andrew21** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:50 am

Hahaha yeh you lucky barstard !!

We'll i think i'll look at doing it very soon... just waiting for abit more cash...

Just a question...

My car seems to be to not be going at its full potential... When you accelerate there is a big noticeable lag before VGIS engages, and when you stab the accelerator it isnt very responsive, there is a slight shudder....

I did a service changing

1. Oil + Filter
2. Spark plugs

And i know the Fuel filter was changed around 30,000kms ago..

Could this be a result from my worn timing belt tensioners? causing the belt to slip ?
Would the worn tensiors be affecting my performance ? or would they just be causing noise and risk ???

daewoomofo · Post by **daewoomofo** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:02 am

its a possability, if the belt is streached its throwing the timeing of the cams off causeing the performance to lack.

Andrew21 · Post by **Andrew21** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:31 am

Hmmm... Interesting...

Well i dont know yet 100% if the belt is stretched...So far all i know is that the Idle pulley and Tensioner are making a LOW-MEDIUM whinning noise...