Protect the environment and save fuelwith a cheap DIY device

[ntwdavid]

http://forum.onemotoring.com.sg/mvnforu ... stpage=yes

Please follow above link

[mezomaster]

what is that? i dont think it can affect anything at all if u made a closed circuit from battery to battery

[ntwdavid]

what is that? i dont think it can affect anything at all if u made a closed circuit from battery to battery

Dear all please try it , it going to cost u a weekend and that all. please post your result here. slightly more responsive and more fuel economy is what i get.

[ntwdavid]

what is that? i dont think it can affect anything at all if u made a closed circuit from battery to battery

oh that is a voltage stabilizer, try it and u know , i also have doubt in it initially despite , a lot of testimonials, benefit explaination, DYNO results and.....

[MMamdouh]

why would you need a voltage stabilizer? and how is it going to save fuel??

MMamdouh

[Nubira2.2]

voltage stabilizers in conjuction with ground kits
do improve horse power, fuel economy, throttel response and improvement in the car electric system

[ntwdavid]

why would you need a voltage stabilizer? and how is it going to save fuel??

MMamdouh

Very difficult to explain , especially for a newbie like me. Though our modern vehicle ecu is very effective when mixing up the air fuel ratio but signal from and to the ecu is not accurate/too slow or signal loss. A small capacity capacitor charge and discharge very fast ,faster than our 12v battery. It is a bit like upgrading your ram to a faster one in the computer.

[MMamdouh]

why would you need a voltage stabilizer? and how is it going to save fuel??

MMamdouh

Very difficult to explain , especially for a newbie like me. Though our modern vehicle ecu is very effective when mixing up the air fuel ratio but signal from and to the ecu is not accurate/too slow or signal loss. A small capacity capacitor charge and discharge very fast ,faster than our 12v battery. It is a bit like upgrading your ram to a faster one in the computer.

does it really work? is it worth the time and money spent? how much power gains i am looking at by doing this??

MMamdouh

[PrecisionBoost]

I don't usually look at this kind of stuff.... but I figured I might as well check it out since there are a few people asking if it will work.

As soon as I looked at the capacitor values I started laughing.

Save your $20.... it's usesless.... the capacitance values are too low to help stabilize the power supply.

I would however suggest looking at something in the range of 1,000,000 uF of capacitance ( know as one Farad )

That is the type of capacitor used in car audio systems to ensure a nice smooth constant voltage supply.

For reference 470uF is 0.000470 farads..... so to get the same capacitance of one of these large regulator capacitors you would need to buy 2127 470uF capacitors and put them in parallel.

So you can probably see why I'm laughing.... it's way short of what it required to create a truely stable voltage supply.

As a side note..... 1 Farad Capacitors (for audio systems) usually cost between $25 and $100

I just looked on Ebay and they sell for as low as $30

The more Farads of capacitance the better.... but unless your installing a high power stereo system 1 Farad is good enough.

Here is a good Ebay example..... a "no name" 2,000,000 uF (2 Farad) capacitor with LED voltage display for $29.00 USD

http://cgi.ebay.com/MASSIVE-AUDIO-2-FAR ... dZViewItem

[ntwdavid]

does it really work? is it worth the time and money spent? how much power gains i am looking at by doing this??

MMamdouh

Please try it there is hardly any power gain but responsiveness can be feel instancely. and fuel consumpion will improve. Please don't laugh my 0-70km/h timing is improve by average 0.2 sec only. By the ways it is not 20 bucks USD , it cost about 13.333USD only.

[ntwdavid]

I don't usually look at this kind of stuff.... but I figured I might as well check it out since there are a few people asking if it will work.

As soon as I looked at the capacitor values I started laughing.

Save your $20.... it's usesless.... the capacitance values are too low to help stabilize the power supply.

I would however suggest looking at something in the range of 1,000,000 uF of capacitance ( know as one Farad )

That is the type of capacitor used in car audio systems to ensure a nice smooth constant voltage supply.

For reference 470uF is 0.000470 farads..... so to get the same capacitance of one of these large regulator capacitors you would need to buy 2127 470uF capacitors and put them in parallel.

So you can probably see why I'm laughing.... it's way short of what it required to create a truely stable voltage supply.

As a side note..... 1 Farad Capacitors (for audio systems) usually cost between $25 and $100

I just looked on Ebay and they sell for as low as $30

The more Farads of capacitance the better.... but unless your installing a high power stereo system 1 Farad is good enough.

Here is a good Ebay example..... a "no name" 2,000,000 uF (2 Farad) capacitor with LED voltage display for $29.00 USD

http://cgi.ebay.com/MASSIVE-AUDIO-2-FAR ... dZViewItem

Please hear my explaination, yes the capacitance is very small but their charge and discharge(charge and discharge at the same time) rate is very fast.
Currently the 12v battery and farads capacitance cannot match it speed yet. Try it first and u may like to post the result here, by the way this mod is not for power it is more for fuel economy

[mezomaster]

I tried it, with the diagram in that link, i dont notice a difference yet, but i feel if those transistors were one farad it may effect, there is a very little improvement in the throttle response too

[mezomaster]

sorry for less knowledge about the electric properties, but is there any danger if that circuit kept connected to the battery all the time even when i leave the car, it wont charge all that time or anything? i am worried those capacitors keep charging and explode, or they just charge and discharge at the same time????

[PrecisionBoost]

Please hear my explaination, yes the capacitance is very small but their charge and discharge(charge and discharge at the same time) rate is very fast.
Currently the 12v battery and farads capacitance cannot match it speed yet. Try it first and u may like to post the result here, by the way this mod is not for power it is more for fuel economy

I don't want to be pushy.... but I'm an Electronics Engineering Tech. and I own a manufacturing company that builds industrial electronics (among other things)

All capacitors will charge and discharge in a circuit like this... but not at the same time.... that would be impossible.... it's either one or the other.

You don't want capacitors that charge and discharge quickly..... that means that the net voltage will fluctuate and move up and down.

What you want is a large capacitor that can discharge hundreds of amps or absorb hundreds of amps while keeping the net voltage exactly the same.

A large 2 Farad capacitor is capable of removing all "noise" and voltage fluctuations within a system like this..... which is the sole purpose of a voltage regulation circuit.

For the money I would simply purchase one of these large capacitors.... it will do the same thing but better.

[ntwdavid]

I tried it, with the diagram in that link, i dont notice a difference yet, but i feel if those transistors were one farad it may effect, there is a very little improvement in the throttle response too

you must try connect the device close to the battery voltage(+ and -) distribution point. My ride a lanos sx i could feel some different, i also install them in a swift , liteace van and corolla. They feel some improvement too.